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mrgtk
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 Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:11 pm Post subject: Not sure how to use gnope |
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I'm on WinXP and I installed gnope the other day to begin working with phpgtk. I installed it because I saw the link on gtk.php.net and I couldn't get php gtk setup manually all that well with WAMP5. In the flash tutorial (german accent) I saw a GUI for management and development, but I have yet to figure out how to bring up that GUI.
If I click on the PHP-Gtk2 Applications desktop shortcut, it brings up a Channel selector and a frame with Gnope_AppRunner. Is Channel for the PEAR packages? How do I run a phpgtk script or bring up the GUI for developing one? I'm still new to pear and php(gtk). Thanks. |
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cweiske
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| Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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The "GUI" to develop can be any text editor. You might prefer an IDE to develop PHP applications; there is a thread in this forum (under software).
The PEAR Frontend is a graphical frontend for the PEAR installer, written in PHP-Gtk2 itself. There are several channels, the Gnope one has PHP-Gtk2 applications. After installation, you can launch the installed programs with the AppRunner.
To run them manually, open a console, navigate to C:\PHP-Gtk2\lib\pear\Gnope\*\ and type "php run.phpw".
You can start any php script by using "php C:\path\to\you\script.php".
PHP-Gtk2 applications are normal php scripts. It doesn't matter if you name them ".php" or ".phpw", it's just I prefer ".phpw" to make clear that they are "windowed php applications" in contrast to web based .php ones. |
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mrgtk
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| Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| cweiske wrote: | The "GUI" to develop can be any text editor. You might prefer an IDE to develop PHP applications; there is a thread in this forum (under software).
The PEAR Frontend is a graphical frontend for the PEAR installer, written in PHP-Gtk2 itself. There are several channels, the Gnope one has PHP-Gtk2 applications. After installation, you can launch the installed programs with the AppRunner.
To run them manually, open a console, navigate to C:\PHP-Gtk2\lib\pear\Gnope\*\ and type "php run.phpw".
You can start any php script by using "php C:\path\to\you\script.php".
PHP-Gtk2 applications are normal php scripts. It doesn't matter if you name them ".php" or ".phpw", it's just I prefer ".phpw" to make clear that they are "windowed php applications" in contrast to web based .php ones. |
Thanks, I downloaded and have been using "PHP Designer" to play around with creating php scripts. I also have used wscite (text editor) for that.
I went ahead and got Glade2 for windows since it was recommended on this site for creating phpgtk programs. I must have misunderstood what Gnope was for, I thought it was more like Glade.
By the way when I installed Gnope, it said that the zlib.dll was missing, I thought that this may have been because I was running another application when I was installing Gnope, although Gnope seems to work fine now and there is a zlib1.dll in the directory.
One other thing, when I installed Glade, it had a PHP-Gtk Runtime environment. Does it matter than Gnope already installed php-gtk, will there be conflicts or anything?
Sorry if that doesn't make sense, I'm still learning all of this  |
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cweiske
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| Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | One other thing, when I installed Glade, it had a PHP-Gtk Runtime environment. Does it matter than Gnope already installed php-gtk, will there be conflicts or anything? |
Glade itself is a C program. It does only provide a graphical user interface designer. Glade has nothing to do with PHP-Gtk.
Gnope sets up all necessary PHP and Gtk libraries that need to be there to execute PHP-Gtk2 programs. Glade doesn't add anything to it, it's a normal program which output happens to be used with a PHP-Gtk2 class. |
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mrgtk
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| Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 2:18 am Post subject: |
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| cweiske wrote: | | Quote: | | One other thing, when I installed Glade, it had a PHP-Gtk Runtime environment. Does it matter than Gnope already installed php-gtk, will there be conflicts or anything? |
Glade itself is a C program. It does only provide a graphical user interface designer. Glade has nothing to do with PHP-Gtk.
Gnope sets up all necessary PHP and Gtk libraries that need to be there to execute PHP-Gtk2 programs. Glade doesn't add anything to it, it's a normal program which output happens to be used with a PHP-Gtk2 class. |
So can Glade be useful for building php-gtk applications?
I googled "php gtk ide" and found Dev-PHP. I d/l and installed it, but I haven't really gotten anywhere with it for running scripts and phpgtk apps. I have most of everything configured right. I can run a phpgtk demo app fine with gnope though. |
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cweiske
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| Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 6:11 am Post subject: |
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Please, please have a look at the Tutorials:
http://php-gtk2.de/manual/en/html/tutorials/tutorials.html
Especiall the glade and the hello world.
And if you don't know how to write PHP scripts, you won't come anywhere because PHP-Gtk is a PHP extension and to write PHP-Gtk programs means to write PHP programs with using some Gtk classes. |
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mrgtk
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| Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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| cweiske wrote: | Please, please have a look at the Tutorials:
http://php-gtk2.de/manual/en/html/tutorials/tutorials.html
Especiall the glade and the hello world.
And if you don't know how to write PHP scripts, you won't come anywhere because PHP-Gtk is a PHP extension and to write PHP-Gtk programs means to write PHP programs with using some Gtk classes. |
Thanks, I have already read the hello glade tutorial. I do know how to write and have been writing php scripts for about two years. Although, I am knew to gnope, glade, php-gtk and windows programming and wanted to make sure I wasn't talking in circles. |
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mrgtk
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| Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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I've been having some fun using the file from "Hello Glade2" to tinker with glade. I just left the helloglade.phpw alone and opened the helloglade.glade file and started playing around with it.
I made three php scripts, one for calculating future value, one for finding the market value (if book value and % are known), and the third is finding the percentage increase/decrease if only book value and market value are known. I plan on taking all three of these scripts and putting them into a small php-gtk (or glade) file to make a small app, which will be my first.
I still haven't gotten devphp to work right, but I may not even need it if I use glade and gnope.
Anyone know about priadoblender? I downloaded it but I don't know anything about compiling .exe's for windows. |
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cweiske
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| Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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| You don't need Dev-PHP. You can use any editor, including windows notepad. Look at the software forum, the editor discussion |
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mrgtk
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| Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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| cweiske wrote: | | You don't need Dev-PHP. You can use any editor, including windows notepad. Look at the software forum, the editor discussion |
Thanks, I already checked that forum as you recommended before. Dev-PHP just had an ok layout for management, I know I don't need it to create apps or scripts or anything, just thought about using it to manage the projects. Right now I use wscite and PHP Designer for scripts. I like wscite as an alternative to notepad because wscite allows color coding and it's faster to tweak something minor in a script than Designer is. |
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mrgtk
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| Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh, I forgot to ask. I already know how to run a php gtk application from the command line, but how does one do it with the Gnope_AppRunner? When I click on the PHP-Gtk2 Applications icon on the desktop it brings up the window with Dev_Inspector and Gnope_AppRunner in it, but when I click on Gnope_AppRunner it just brings up the exact same window as before with Dev_Inspector and Gnope_AppRunner listed again (with Install/Uninstall programs at bottom). |
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cweiske
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| Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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| The "PHP-Gtk2 applications" icon actually starts AppRunner. Since AppRunner is a PHP-Gtk2 application, AppRunner lists itself :) |
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mrgtk
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| Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:37 am Post subject: |
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| Oh, I see. So is there an alternative for running my php-gtk programs from the command line? |
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cweiske
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| Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 6:45 am Post subject: |
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| Your application needs to have a "run.phpw" file, and needs to be installed as a PEAR-package locally. Then AppRunner shows it in its application list. |
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mrgtk
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| Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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| cweiske wrote: | | Your application needs to have a "run.phpw" file, and needs to be installed as a PEAR-package locally. Then AppRunner shows it in its application list. |
I had a peek at the dev_inspector's run.phpw file to see what it looks like, but I don't know how to install my script as a pear package locally. |
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